Secular Ocean Theory Evaporates

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Posted on January 26, 2017 in Bible and Theology, Dating Methods, Dumb Ideas, Geology, Origin of Life, Philosophy of Science, Physics, Solar System

The divination experts see a new vision emerging from meteorites, portending disaster.

If there was ever a coherent theory of how the earth got its oceans, it’s gone. The new reading of meteorites forbids it. Now, inventors of solar system models have to go back to square one. Whatever they come up with is bound to take more heat.

Because the early earth was pictured to be molten with volcanoes going off and meteors hitting repeatedly, cosmogonists were forced into thinking that water arrived later. The ‘late veneer’ theory (which we call the ‘water balloon’ theory) claimed that the oceans were late arrivals, the water being delivered by comets and meteorites after things cooled down a bit.*

For empirical support, they appealed to elements in chondritic meteorites, believing that elements embedded in the stones can act as “fingerprints” of conditions at the time of their formation. A new paper in Nature, however, claims that stable isotopes of ruthenium falsify the late veneer theory: “these data refute an outer Solar System origin for the late veneer and imply that the late veneer was not the primary source of volatiles and water on the Earth.” Moreover, these isotopes don’t match those in earth’s crust.

What this implies is that earth’s water had to arrive earlier somehow. In “Meteorite Studies Reveal Surprises About Earth’s Formation” on, Elizabeth Howell speaks of double toil and trouble:

Two studies published Wednesday (Jan. 25) in the journal Nature suggest that Earth’s main building blocks were rocks similar to meteorites known as enstatite chondrites, and that the planet got most of its water gradually during the formation process, rather than in one big burst toward the end.

The results presented in these papers lead to the troubling conclusion that the meteorites in our collection are not particularly good examples of Earth’s building blocks,” Richard Carlson, a geochemist at the Carnegie Institution for Science in Washington, D.C., wrote in a commentary article that accompanied the two studies in Nature. (Carlson was not involved in either study.)

At New Scientist, Chelsea White interprets the hidden message in the stones, concluding, “Earth’s water must have arrived here earlier than we thought.(Who’s “we”, Paleface?)

THE arrival of water on our planet is shrouded in mystery. Our leading theory says icy meteorites brought it here after most of the planet and its core had formed, about 4.5 billion years ago. But now an analysis of isotopes from meteorites seems to imply that the wet stuff got here much sooner.

One of the authors is sufficiently confident to declare falsification of the late veneer theory. “We can now rule out water arriving on icy comets after the planet was mostly formed.” But if, as White concludes, “Earth’s water may in fact have been part of the very dust cloud from which the planet first condensed,” a number of new demons rise out of the shroud of mystery, scaring the scientist-diviners back to reality. They know that volatiles like water would have likely escaped during the violent, hot conditions that the spirits of the meteorites tell them must have taken millions of years, with up to 20 huge impacts needed to form the moon (1/10/17). The dust-cloud origin theory also begs the question of how the dust cloud got its water in the first place. Not surprisingly, all the articles and papers ignore this new, larger mystery: how did water survive on a violent early earth?

*The ‘water balloon’ theory has long had problems. See 3/26/02, 12/27/07, 10/11/11, 7/23/12, and 12/11/14.

Update 1/28/17: New Scientist offers a new idea: the earth made its own water from scratch. Andy Coghlan quotes a Canadian who concocted a model showing how chemical reactions in the mantle could produce water. Pressure would increase, emitting water through volcanoes. A Brit thinks most of the water produced that way would be “small scale and localized,” so most of earth’s ocean water still had to arrive from comets. Coghlan indicates that the pressure is more likely in the scientists’ heads, not in the mantle. “A study published this week, for example, based on isotopes from meteorites and Earth’s mantle, also found that water is unlikely to have arrived on icy comets after Earth formed, as has long been assumed.” Right after that, he quotes the Brit who says it had to come from comets – a contradiction, leaving the reader thinking neither model is workable.

The scientists did not see the origin of the earth or its oceans. They did not see “the arrival of water on our planet” (notice the dodge; using passive voice “the arrival of water” avoids having to explain how it arrived). Their models are emanations of their starting assumptions. The only things they can measure scientifically are elemental abundances in meteorites and earth rocks. The rest is divination.

Everyone has access to, however, an Eyewitness account. That account is corroborated by our own eyewitness testimony that earth’s water is not only vital for our planet’s habitability, but is beautiful, fun, and health-giving. It looks designed for a purpose. Chelsea may be more correct than she knows when she says, “Earth’s water must have arrived here earlier than we thought.”

Now read the Bible’s warnings about those who use divination instead of believing God’s word: Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Micah. Substitute “scientists” for “prophets” since today’s secular scientists, entering their Yoda trances, prophesy to the people about the “arrival” of earth, its water, the moon, and everything else, using modern divination techniques.


lux113 January 26, 2017

So… the theory that water arrived here by comets and meteorites was always stupid. I know, rough word to use, but it’s appropriate. It was stupid. There is absolutely no logical way we could end up with miles deep oceans from the tiny amounts hitching a ride on rocks.

It’s ridiculous that it was ever considered a prevailing theory. Just like so many others.. like our moon coming from a collision — and for that matter the ridiculousness of Pangea — and also things like dark matter. It’s an embarrassment to the word “science” that all these crazy theories are given credit in the first place.

Simply because you know no other way that something could happen (because you can’t let a divine foot in the door) doesn’t mean you should entertain ludicrous hypotheses to fill the void.

Jon Saboe January 26, 2017

What is never addressed is how water formed, naturalistically, in the first place.

From clouds of gas and dust? How can water molecules form in the vastness of space?
How did a water balloon form?

Yet, we DO find water everywhere we look. And I’m always amused when a new sign of water is found, the media instantly reports it as a possible sign of life.

But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water.“
2 Peter 3:5

If water was the base compound for creation, it’s only natural to expect to find it everywhere.

John C January 26, 2017

Yes, dear lux, but with no divine foot, it’s all they have left. I used to think it was laughable, actually prefixing 20 Ha-Has in front of youtube comments. But it is bitterly and glaringly sad to live in the generation that has seen so much of Romans 1:17–32 come to pass.

John C January 26, 2017

Dear Jon, Excellent list, here’s one more possibility for finding water:
2 Peter 3:6 (KJV)
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
Water, as the universal solvent (Acidic to alkalis, alkaline to acids), destroys as many organic compounds as it helps to bind. Chemical equilibrium is water’s favorite state, and that spells D-I-S-A-S-T-E-R to accidental life.
Sincerely unbalanced, and thanking God for it,
Your servant, John

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